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David Roberts's avatar

I think community is there for the taking, and while zoom is not as communal as in person, it's a big leap from commenting on Substack, which in turn is a big leap from the most pervasive social media sites.

I've zoomed with a few Substack writers in the UK who, absent the technology, I'd never have gotten to know. And we'll probably go to London this year, one of the drivers being the opportunity to meet whoever's around in real life. I realize that it's a privilege to pick up and make that trip, but it's an example of seeking out community.

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A. Jay Adler's avatar

I confess, Josh, I’m a bit overwhelmed by the enormity of the issues you raise here, both in the question about Hemingway that called me here and the one about community. One could write so much. Here, some partial, related responses.

First, I have to say I think Hemingway’s formulation, as gripping as it is, grips in the wrong place. We don’t get strong in the broken places. We get strong around them. The broken places heal but remain vulnerable.

I think another way of conceiving the adaptation to the world that is partly under discussion here is how we live with disappointment. The world, our lives, don’t deliver to us exactly what we hoped for, professionally, relationally, romantically, in community, in the prevailing culture and values – how do we live with that? How do we accommodate it? How do we create value in our lives – and we do have to create it ourselves – so that life feels worth living and a source of some fulfillment to us. Short of the tragic, that’s the hard work of living.

The creation part is essential. For every person who lamented the fragmented world of modernity and the loss of what they imagined a passing coherent spiritual and cultural world view, there was someone rushing headlong with enthusiasm into the revolutionary newness of that same modernity. I’m currently rereading Frank Kermode’s The Sense of an Ending in working on an essay I’ll publish next week. He writes about how that sense derives from our need to see and arrange order out of the disorderly flux of the world. But even that perception of disorderly flux, no less than the organizing narrative and theoretical arrangements and explanations we think to extract from it – some will argue – is time bound and standpoint determined. I venture to say that your relation to the idea, and need, for community differs from mine in ways we might stereotypically anticipate based on the different places we were raised in. My relation to a community of place (to condense complex experience and feelings into a simple formula) are shaped as much by Winesburg, Ohio as Grover's Corners, New Hampshire.

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